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The New Abnormal

Trump-Epstein Shutoff ‘Doesn't Smell Right:’ Mooch

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Anthony Scaramucci joins Joanna Coles to unpack the official story behind Jeffrey Epstein's death and why Elon Musk has renewed his trolling of Donald Trump. Scaramucci rejects the idea of a "client list" but says Epstein kept kompromat on powerful friends. He points to Epstein's ties to Les Wexner, hints at Trump's entanglement, and suggests the real cover-up is about protecting elite reputations, not uncovering a conspiracy. The Mooch also explains what may come of Elon Musk's America Party, how it may affect the coming elections, and what Musk's fundamental objective is with his new third party. He warns that Musk is not to be underestimated and calls for Elon to respond to the X DMs he has sent.

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0:00.0

The Epstein filed. And the FBI have come out and said there's nothing to see here. There is no list.

0:07.1

So you think they're doing it to protect Donald Trump?

0:09.4

I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to be that guy. I'm not privy enough to the information.

0:14.1

So I'm not saying Trump is implicated or not. You know, Elon Musk said he was implicated.

0:21.3

I'm Joanna Cole's chief content officer of The Daily Beast.

0:24.9

This is the Daily Beast podcast, and I hope you had a good July the 4th weekend,

0:29.1

if you can even still remember it amid all the news.

0:32.7

I, of course, am British, so I think nothing of import happened this weekend,

0:36.1

but Anthony Scaramucci begs to differ.

0:39.2

He spent the weekend tweeting or exing up a storm and retweeting or re-exing Elon Musk's posts about the

0:48.3

America Party. And Anthony said, I would like to meet to discuss. My DMs are open. So Elon DM, Anthony, also the FBI statement that there was no Jeffrey Epstein client list,

1:01.1

and he definitely committed suicide.

1:03.6

So put all your conspiracy theories to one side.

1:06.7

But Anthony also gets into that and why it so gets under Donald Trump's skin.

1:13.1

So no time to waste.

1:15.3

Let's get into it.

1:16.5

Anthony Scaramucci, you have had a very busy weekend tweeting up a storm.

1:22.3

What excites you about the America Party?

1:25.2

Well, listen, I've maintained it.

1:26.7

I mean, the system is clearly broken.

1:28.5

I mean, this big, beautiful spending bill is a disaster for the country.

1:34.2

It's going to add a tremendous amount of deficit spending.

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