Epstein Sent This Ominous Note Just Before He Died

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🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to unpack the surreal world of Jeffrey Epstein—from the salons of Manhattan’s elite to the shadowy corners of MAGA conspiracy. Wolff, who cultivated Epstein as a source and planned to have breakfast with him the morning after his arrest, reveals the financier’s deep ties to figures like Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, and Bill Gates. He shares the eerie final message Epstein sent Wolff before his death—and challenges both the suicide narrative and the murder theory. Wolff debunks the myth of a “client list,” critiques the DOJ’s recent denial of foul play, and exposes the hypocrisy of right-wing figures like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, who once demanded answers and now run the very agency saying there’s “nothing to see.” He also examines Epstein’s enigmatic financial empire, his influence over powerful men, and the unspoken role Trump’s inner circle may play in concealing the case.

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0:00.0	Yes, Bannon felt that the one person who had the goods on Donald Trump was Jeffrey Epstein.
0:10.7	I'm Joanna Coles, Chief Content Officer of The Daily Beast, and you are listening or watching to The Daily Beast.
0:17.4	And we have a remarkable conversation for you today, bouncing off the news that
0:23.3	Pam Bondi is not releasing any more Epstein files that Jeffrey Epstein definitely committed suicide
0:30.0	with the author Michael Wolfe, who not only spent a lot of time with Donald Trump, but of course
0:35.5	spent a lot of time with Jeffrey Epstein.
0:38.4	It's a really remarkable conversation and will leave you with more questions than answers,
0:45.5	but there will definitely be surprises in it. I have talked to Michael many times about the dinners
0:52.7	that he attended at Jeffrey Epstein's house.
0:55.5	And even I was surprised by some of the information that he shares.
0:59.6	So sit back or sit up or lean in to a conversation which, well, you make your mind up.
1:10.7	Michael, very good to see you.
1:12.4	You posted an intriguing Instagram today.
1:17.9	We're recording this on Tuesday morning about the Epstein files.
1:23.4	And you mentioned that Cash Patel and Don Bongino, the number one and the number two at the FBI, respectively, have been hoist by their own part of the conspiracy theorists demanding the release of the Epstein files and the Epstein client list.
1:41.2	And now, of course, Pam Bondi at the Department of Justice, has said there's nothing to see here. There is no client list. And now, of course, Pam Bondi at the Department of Justice has said,
1:45.1	there's nothing to see here. There is no client list. He definitely killed himself. It wasn't murder.
1:52.2	And now the people that were very much at the forefront of the conspiracy have had to accept
1:57.6	that it is indeed so.
2:03.8	So what are your thoughts about all this?
2:06.3	I really want to unpack Jeffrey Epstein with you.
2:09.9	I know you spent a lot of time with him and I really want to understand it. And also, so interesting to me that the DOJ literally released or Axios got the story, the initial story about the DOJ saying this
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