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The Social Contract with Joe Walsh

Trump, Epstein, & Michael Cohen. A Conversation

The Social Contract with Joe Walsh

The Bravery Project

Politics, News, Joe, Thedaily, Wash, Podsaveamerica, Thelincolnproject, Trump, Joewalsh

4.6833 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

I sat down with writer Ellie Leonard, who’s done such great work this past year bringing important aspects of the Epstein scandal to light. We discussed the Michael Cohen fall out, where the Epstein case is headed, and what most concerns Ellie about what we still don’t know. Wonderful conversation. Have a listen

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0:00.0

We are not okay. America is not okay. And we all know that. Former Congressman Joe Walsh,

0:08.7

this is the social contract with Joe Walsh. Let's figure out how to get okay together.

0:24.3

Thank you for joining us. That voice belongs to Ellie Leonard.

0:26.9

She has quickly become one of my favorite people on this crazy platform that I still don't understand.

0:34.9

Yeah, I don't either.

0:36.7

As you come in, hit the Red Hearts,

0:40.8

and I'll say this a few times.

0:43.3

If you're not yet subscribing to this young mother,

0:47.3

doggone it, get off your butt and subscribe to her

0:50.0

because she's doing really cool, interesting stuff.

0:53.3

Thank you.

0:54.6

Ellie, let's give everybody listening just a brief history before we get into something.

1:01.0

Sure.

1:01.8

Every day is so crazy and you got your family and the country's in the midst of a revolution.

1:08.1

So I forget a lot of shit, but you and I reached out to each other a few weeks ago. How did we connect? I don't remember. I mean, well, okay, I do remember. I had reached out to you because I said, I said something like, I feel like, I feel like we're a little bit of like a kindred spirit. Like we might have come from like the same place. And it's funny because you then

1:28.3

sent me your phone number and then I texted you. And then it wasn't until we talked recently that

1:33.8

I realized that I'd left the number off the end of your phone number and that I had never

1:37.6

texted you. You have. Yes. And so yeah, because I just feel background-wise and where I come from is probably very similar.

1:46.4

Like, I never worked in politics, but just like growing up in a very conservative house and just, you know, like I have a very, you know, I lived in Seattle.

1:56.6

I went to Mars Hill Church, which is a wild and wacky story that I will probably write about at some point.

2:02.3

But just how far I've come, I have a trans family member, and that has taught me a lot about being

2:08.9

open-minded and learning what being an ally and being supportive looks like, how much education

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