Trump endorses a dictator
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🗓️ 5 January 2022
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Tommy and Ben talk about Trump’s endorsement of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and what it says about the future of democracy, the latest on Biden’s efforts to prevent Russia from invading Ukraine, China and Lithuania, a major election in Chile, and a look ahead at some of the world’s most important elections in 2022. Then Ben talks with author Howard French about his new book “Born in Blackness: Africa, Africans, and the Making of the Modern World.”
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Patsy the world. I'm Tommy Vittor. I'm Ben Rhodes. Ben pandemic is over. |
| 0:16.0 | Yeah. Congress is sold out. It's probably 2021. Yeah. Here we are just behind us. |
| 0:20.4 | Wowing right ahead, searching into the new year. Feels very the same. |
| 0:24.2 | Well, maybe worse. Yeah. The aggravation is really just building up into something fun. |
| 0:33.6 | Although I'm hopeful that this this Omicron thing is going to be like a one month problem. |
| 0:38.7 | Pandemic wise, I'm actually, yeah, like, I'm curiously hopeful for someone who has been on like |
| 0:43.8 | Omicron lockdown and dealing with new school closures in the rest of it. But the school sucks. |
| 0:48.0 | You can kind of see a light flickering there at the end of a very long dark tunnel. Long dark tunnel. |
| 0:54.8 | Okay. Here's what we got for you guys today, dear listeners. So we had Donald Trump endorsing |
| 0:59.4 | Victor Orban of Hungary, Ben's longtime friend Victor Orban. Talk about how that folds into |
| 1:05.2 | this broader conversation. We're having this week about our democracy. The latest on Russia and |
| 1:10.0 | Ukraine. There's some news about China and Lithuania that you flagged. It's very interesting. A little |
| 1:15.2 | no about Hong Kong. There was a major election in Chile. And then we're going to talk through some |
| 1:20.3 | of the big elections ahead of us in 2022. Finally, I got some clickbait for you about the Queen of |
| 1:26.4 | England. The happiest interaction with the bank in history. And then Ben, you just finished our |
| 1:31.3 | interview for today. Who did you talk to? What are listeners going to hear? I talked to Howard |
| 1:35.3 | Friends. She was a long time foreign correspondent for The New York Times and has a really important |
| 1:40.0 | new book out called Born in Blackness, which is basically about how we don't fully understand |
| 1:45.7 | the history of the world because we've kind of erased Africa from that history. And the book |
| 1:50.8 | is extraordinary in its own right. We talk about the argument behind it. But also, there are issues |
| 1:56.0 | on the show. We talk about Molly and Haiti, where I think the context is important. Why these places |
| 2:02.4 | are like they are today. So he kind of connects the dots between the history of places like Molly or |
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