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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

Trump Drug Boat Bombing Takes Darker Turn as Damning New Info Emerges

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Questions are mounting about President Trump’s decision to bomb a small boat in the Caribbean Sea, killing all 11 people on board. The administration says these were drug cartel members who posed a threat to the United States, but many legal experts have concluded the bombing might have been illegal or a war crime. And this saga just got darker. Senator Tim Kaine and two dozen other Democrats just released a powerful letter laying out tough questions for the administration. The letter demonstrates the weakness of Trump’s legal case in a freshly vivid way. And a Senate staffer tells us Kaine reached out to numerous Republicans in hopes of getting them to sign the letter, but damningly, none would. Meanwhile, new reporting indicates that the boat might have been turning around before getting hit, making Trump’s decision look even worse. We talked to Scott Anderson, senior editor at Lawfare and author of a great piece analyzing the strike. He demystifies the legal and substantive complexities, sheds light on how brazenly Trump is stretching the law, and discusses whether we’ll ever learn what really happened. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Daily Blast from the New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network.

0:16.5

I'm your host, Greg Sargent.

0:35.2

Serious questions are mounting about President Donald Trump's decision to bomb a small boat in the Caribbean Sea, killing all 11 people on board.

0:42.2

The administration says these were drug cartel members transporting drugs that posed a threat to the United States,

0:47.7

but many legal experts have concluded the bombing might have been illegal or possibly a war crime.

0:50.3

And this saga is getting darker.

0:56.1

Senator Tim Cain and two dozen other Democratic senators just released a bombshell of a letter laying out sharply drawn questions about the situation for the administration, and were told

1:02.1

that Cain reached out to Republicans to get their signatures on the letter, but none would, which is appalling.

1:09.0

New information has also come out about the strike that makes it all look

1:12.6

even worse. We're unraveling all this with Scott Anderson, a senior editor at Lawfare,

1:18.0

an author of a great new piece analyzing the legality of the strike. Scott, thanks for coming on.

1:23.7

Thank you for having me. So here's where we are. On September 2nd, Trump announced that he'd ordered the sinking of this boat, supposedly carrying what they call narco-terrorists, all linked to Trend de Aragua, which the administration has designated a terrorist organization.

1:40.2

Congress has not authorized this.

1:41.8

The only legal authority the administration seems to be claiming is

1:45.2

inherent constitutional power as commander-in-chief. Scott, can you sum up what we know about the facts here?

1:51.9

Yeah, absolutely. What we're aware of is that on September 2nd, the United States through what

1:58.4

appears by some ordering a drone strike, although we're not 100%.

2:02.0

I don't think I've seen that officially confirmed anywhere, targeted a small boat with 11 people on board

2:07.6

that the administration has described as positively identified. That's the language they use

2:12.0

members of Trenton to Aragua, killing all 11 members. The boat was initially said at various points to be headed to the United States. There was some flip-flopping on that by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who suggested at one point, it might as head to the United States, then wasn't so sure about it. There have been conflicting accounts since then with people who have analyzed the type of boat, the amount of fuel it holds, the direction it was headed in, subsequent reporting suggesting that, in fact, it wasn't clearly headed the United States or perhaps that it had even turned around after detecting it was being surveilled by U.S. military aircraft of some sort. We saw President Trump, parrot, what looks to be a fair amount of more formal Defense Department information, judging for some of the vernacular and acronyms used on his truth social platform, saying essentially positively

2:56.5

identified 11 members of TDA were killed, used lethal force, no service members or U.S. people

3:02.2

killed on the ground, which doesn't really apply here because obviously wasn't on the ground,

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