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This is radio Atlantic. I'm Isaac Dauphair. This Wednesday the British Ambassador to the United States resigned. Sir Kim Derek announced, and I'm quoting him, that the current situation is making impossible for me to carry out my role as I would like. In that situation, the oldest political controversy, saying what you actually think.

Earlier this week private cables from Derek leaked in which he described the White House as clumsy and inept,

and said President Trump radiates insecurity and of course Trump

tweeted back. The president called Derek Wacky, a very stupid guy and a

pompous fool.

Descriptions the Ambassador's friends have strongly disputed.

So, Donald Trump being the leader of the free world has been, I think we can say,

an adjustment for diplomats.

And it's not just Britain.

The New York Times reported Wednesday that an ambassador still serving in Washington said,

quote, it could have been any of us.

This week, I wanted to talk with someone who understands diplomacy. How

to diplomats deal with this president? Is this episode just normal for the

Trump era or is it something new that might have lasting consequences for the country and the world?

So I sat down with former U.S. Ambassador Thomas Pickering in his offices in Washington.

Pickering has been an ambassador in six different countries plus the United Nations

under Republican and Democratic presidents and holds the title of Career Ambassador.

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