Joining me today on IHIP News is Robin Dembraff, an associate professor of philosophy at Yale

University and author of the new book, Real Men on Top, that comes out this Monday.

Robin, thank you so much for coming in studio. Thank you so much for having me.

I'm very happy to be here. Okay, I want to talk about your background. You were homeschooled

in an evangelical household and went on to study at Bible Institute of Los Angeles. Tell me about that journey. Yeah, well, I grew up not only

homeschooled in an evangelical community, but also in a very rural area. And my family lived out in

the countryside. And so I spent most of my childhood either by myself or at church. Those are kind

of the two worlds that I inhabited.

And then I went to Bible College at 16 and, you know, got my minor in biblical studies, did a major in

philosophy. And I think I ended up doing a major in philosophy because I could sense at some

level that it had tools that I needed to survive.

And shortly after undergrad, I was outed.

I was excommunicated from the church.

And I had to choose whether I was going to build a reality that I could live in or continue to try to fit myself into a reality that had no space for me.

So I ended up going on my own and here I am now.

What's so fascinating about that to me is it is implied very much right now by the Trump regime

that kids need to be raised in Christian homes and that these labor unions of teachers are radical and they're doing

all of these terrible things to children. And in your case, you were raised according to the way

the Trump regime would want in a good Christian home, homeschooled, went to Bible school, studied the Bible, and you're a non-binary person that they claim

purpled-haired teachers union produced in some sort of public school in some blue state. That's a

really interesting component because I grew up in the Bible Belt

as well. And obviously, all of the gay people I know or trans people that I know or non-binary

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