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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Trump Demolishes East Wing and His Critics’ Emotional Stability, Shutdown Latest, and Dems 2028 Strategy

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Mark kicks off today’s episode with his new reported monologue on Washington’s latest drama: the controversy over Donald Trump’s White House ballroom. He unpacks how a simple construction project became the Left’s newest moral anguish—and what the frenzy reveals about the lingering Trump Derangement Syndrome that still defines so much of the left and political media. Mark separates legitimate critique from performative outrage, showing how the press continues to inflate Trump’s every move into a national crisis. Then Republican Whip Tom Emmer joins Mark to talk strategy, substance, and why Republicans believe they are winning the messaging battle over the current shutdown. Emmer argues that the GOP has stayed disciplined while Democrats spiral into emotional overreaction—and lays out why the East Wing “demolition” has become a perfect metaphor for Washington’s obsession with optics over outcomes. Finally, Democratic strategist Matt Bennett sits down with Mark to examine what the ballroom backlash exposes about his party’s deeper challenges. They discuss the Left’s fixation on aesthetics, the urgent need for real policy debate before 2028, and how figures like J.D. Vance are redefining the political landscape. Bennett and Halperin explore where—and how—Democrats must start talking to voters again if they hope to compete in the next era of American politics. Forward Mobile: Help protect the American vaping industry before it’s too late! Visit https://vaportechnology.org Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/mark and use promo code MARK to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty Chapter: For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial 262-454-0503 or go to https://askchapter.org/mark Disclaimer: Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and standalone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don't directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all your options.

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0:00.0

Hey, welcome in Nexters. Thank you for joining. This is next up. I'm Mark Cowperin, editor-in-chief of the interactive video platform two-way, delighted to have you here. Great show today. We have Tom Emmer, the Republican Whip in the House, a congressman from Minnesota. We'll talk about the shutdown. And Matt Bennett of the third way third way is here democratic organization that's

0:22.3

been around for a long time and you may have heard a little bit of something about the president

0:26.8

wanting to build a ballroom at the white house I'll give you my thoughts on that all that coming up

0:31.4

right here next up everybody now I want to tell you about a group. It's called Vapor Technology Association. It's an

0:39.4

organization started nearly a decade ago to protect the rights of Americans who choose alternatives

0:44.6

to smoking and about the small businesses who have made a living using this technology. They all

0:50.5

support science-based policies and the rights of adults to make healthier choices.

0:55.0

Did you know that many family-owned vape shops and manufacturers around the country are under attack

1:00.0

thanks to what are considered outdated Biden-era regulations that threaten to wipe out an entire American industry?

1:07.0

The Vapor Technology Association, also known as VTA, says businesses are being destroyed and people

1:12.8

are losing their jobs now. But the VTA says President Trump has a clear opportunity to change this

1:18.3

and to protect Americans' rights to make their own choices and to defend small businesses,

1:23.6

restore a free and fair marketplace. Head over to vapor technology.org to learn more about the organization

1:30.1

and why they are leading the charge to support American innovation.

1:34.4

And if their mission appeals to you, as you read about it,

1:37.1

consider becoming a member when you get to the site.

1:39.9

Again, that's vapor technology.org.

1:42.5

Tell them you heard about them on next up.

1:47.2

First, my reported monologue on something that has confused me all week, which is this question

1:52.9

of the president's desire to build a ballroom on the grounds of the White House. This is not a

1:57.9

new thing. In fact, when I was doing reporting for a book years ago,

2:01.6

both Donald Trump and David Axarad, who worked for Barack Obama, told me a version of the same story,

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