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WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Trump, Crime, Punishment and War

WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.6591 Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s Free Expression podcast John Bolton, who served as national security adviser to President Donald Trump tells Wall Street Journal editor at Large Gerry Baker there’s a good chance Trump will be convicted of criminal offenses ahead of the 2024 presidential election and if he is nominated by the Republican Party it will lead to unenviable defeat. He also argues the US needs to be doing much more to counter Russian aggression in Ukraine and to deter potential Chinese aggression in Taiwan.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

0:09.2

Hello and welcome to Free Expression, weekly podcast from the Wall Street Journal editorial page with me, Jerry Baker, editor-at-large at the journal. Thanks very much for listening.

0:16.8

If you aren't already a subscriber, I really hope you'll sign up at Apple, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts. This week we're talking about, inevitably, I suppose, Donald Trump,

0:26.6

the Republican Party, the 2024 presidential election, what it all might mean for US security

0:32.3

and the state of the world at a very dangerous and perhaps potentially perilous time for national security. And to talk about all this, I'm delighted to be joined this week by a veteran of the world at a very dangerous and perhaps potentially perilous time for national security.

0:38.7

And to talk about all this, I'm delighted to be joined this week by a veteran of the most

0:41.9

recent Republican administration, John Bolton. Ambassador Bolton served for a brief but

0:46.6

highly eventful year and a half as President Donald Trump's national security advisor.

0:51.4

And of course, he wrote a book about the searing experience that

0:54.2

he had there. Before that, Mr. Bolton served as ambassador to the United Nations under President

0:58.6

George W. Bush, and had previously served in other roles in the State Department.

1:03.4

As we've said, he's been fiercely critical of Donald Trump. Only last week said that if the former

1:07.8

president were elected for another term as administration would be in

1:11.2

terms of its foreign policy approach, erratic, irrational and unconstrained. Trump himself as a

1:16.9

returned Bolton's compliments, saying that if his famously hawkish former national security

1:22.5

advisor got his way, the US would be in quote World War six by now. So to talk about all this, I'm delighted to say that

1:29.8

Ambassador John Bolton joins me now. Ambassador Bolton, thanks very much for joining free expression.

1:33.7

Very glad to be with you. Let's start with the inevitable Donald Trump, of course,

1:37.6

indicted last week on charges relating to his attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. We may be expecting

1:45.8

another indictment any day now in Georgia from the district attorney there in Fulton County in Georgia

1:54.0

relating to similar issues, his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. Talking about the federal

1:58.8

indictment that we saw last week from Jack Smith,

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