This is Michael Cohen and you're listening to the Mayor Culper podcast.

Hey folks, Mayor Culper is still taking a much needed few days off south of the border.

But with so much going on, we don't want to leave you hanging. Hell, we promised you that we wouldn't do that.

So stay tuned for an all new conversation with Scott Dorkin, founder and lead investigator of the

Democratic Coalition and host of the Dorkin report podcast. His 2016 Dorkin report helped uncover

the Trump-Russia affair, well before special counsel Mueller's probe even began.

He served as a deputy director for both the 2009 presidential inaugural committee and the 2012

Democratic National Convention and was a senior advisor on both the draft Biden and run

Warren run campaigns. He has worked on campaigns and with organizations in all 50 states and was

named to the campaigns and elections magazine 2011 class of rising stars. You could find him at

dorkinreport.com or ScottDorkin.org as well as on Twitter at funder at UNDER. He joins us today on

Mayor Culper to discuss the rapidly approving Georgia racketeering and all things indictment.

So let's go now to that conversation. Okay, so Scott, in your most recent sub-stack newsletter,

you wrote, and I quote, we don't have to act like it's a somber day for America every time

magas get indicted because it's not. It's accountability season starting. It's justice,

even if it comes in the form of an arrest, a mugshot, a fine, whatever it may be, enjoy it.

Use it to fuel your fight to ensure we hold the rest of them accountable. Do me a favor if you

would unpack for my listeners the larger message that you're trying to convey here. Sure, I mean,

one of the common things that I'll get a comment on is we'll talk about, oh, this happened,

Trump got indicted here. He got indicted here. And this, you know, sort of crime occurred, but

what we'll hear on our side of things a lot of times is that's not enough or he's going to

wheeze a lot of it or he's going to have to do. They don't look at the side a lot of times

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