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This is Michael Popak, legal AF. You know things aren't going well for you or for Donald Trump,

when his lawyers today in federal court were caught in a hot mic whisper to a colleague saying,

this is not good. And then this is not good, was referring to the arguments being raised by Jeff

Clark, the disgraced former Department of Justice, environmental lawyer, who Donald Trump ended up

using at some point as a smoke screen through the Department of Justice to interfere with the

peaceful transfer of power. Based on a letter that Jeff Clark wrote on letterhead of the Department

of Justice, basically asking that the different states like Georgia not certify the election,

because the Department of Justice had found fraud. That was a lie, it was based on a lie,

and that letter was in furtherance of a lie. But today, the lawyer for

Jeff Clark, Harry McDougall, too, we've not spoken too much about, said that Trump ordered

his client to do it. Trump instructed his client to write that letter, and that alone makes

for a good basis to transfer the case, your honor from state to federal court, to which the judge,

Stephen Jones, because there was no evidence of that presented. And this is an evidentiary hearing,

requiring, get this evidence to be presented. And since Harry McDougall's client,

Jeff Clark refused to testify, waived his right to testify, and tried to submit a declaration

on a piece of paper instead that the judge quickly dismissed and dispatched, because that's not how it

works in federal court. You have to be cross-examine if you're going to get testimony. You can't just

submit a one-sided affidavit. Sit back and say, see, I didn't do anything wrong, or I was acting

within the course and scope of my federal power. So let me go to federal court. You've got to show up,

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