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The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

Trump Can’t Outspin A Bad Economy + Why Michigan Is The MOST IMPORTANT State In American Politics

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

Chuck Todd

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4.12.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Summary

Chuck Todd reacts to new data showing a slowing economy and explains why Trump can't outspin the reality of a bad economy. Then, he sits down with political journalist to discuss the most important state in American politics: Michigan.

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0:00.0

Happy Monday. I am here. As I said to you on the last broadcast, if McKenzie Gore got traded,

0:12.2

you might have to, I might be hibernating somewhere or worse, but McKenzie Gore did not get

0:18.6

traded. The nationals in theory have a future, although what that future is.

0:24.1

I guess the theory, we all have a future.

0:25.4

The question is, is it a good future or is it a bleak future?

0:29.0

I have a lot more to say about the Nats.

0:31.1

I'm actually going to hold off and do it towards the end of the podcast.

0:34.7

I want to be respectful for why you subscribe.

0:39.9

I know some of you subscribe because you are curious what I have to say with the Nats. And I have a lot to say.

0:46.2

But I'm going to assume that it is not the majority of you on that front. My guest today is an old friend of mine, a longtime journalism

0:56.7

pal, Ron Fournier, he spent a lion's share of his professional career at the Associated Press,

1:03.4

covering the Clinton White House and Bush White House very thoroughly back in the day,

1:07.8

has been in and out of journalism since then.

1:12.1

It was an editor-in-chief of National Journal at one point.

1:16.1

Cranes Detroit.

1:17.4

He's a Michigan native.

1:18.9

He lives in Michigan.

1:20.0

He does communications consulting now.

1:22.6

Has a terrific substack that I've been enjoying.

1:26.6

His daughter babysat for now my senior in college. It'll make us both

1:34.0

feel old on that one. Sorry, Ron. And so the point is, I've known him a long time. He is one of the

1:41.2

smartest makes me think, and he's a no bullshit guy, right? And that's the whole point of the smartest. It makes me think.

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