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It's Complicated

Trump Bump Up; Crime Fraud Exception; Princeton

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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This week: Asha and Renato discuss Alvin Bragg’s possible legal theory for a Trump indictment - the bump up; Jack Smith piercing attorney-client privilege based on the crime-fraud exception; plus Princeton wins and someone is sneaking into Asha’s Zoom. Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/ Subscribe to our podcast  https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Subscribe on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/   Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti   Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

M-S-S-W media.

0:08.6

So, Asha, what's Alvin Bragg's legal theory for charging Trump in the Hushmoney case?

0:15.0

Eh, it's complicated.

0:18.0

I'm Asheringapha.

0:22.0

I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former

0:26.5

FBI special agent and a legal and national security analyst.

0:31.2

And I'm Renata Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer and a legal analyst.

0:38.0

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down to a soundbite or a tweet.

0:44.0

Okay.

0:45.0

Where do we start?

0:50.0

So I think today, let's, you know're we're basically just in speculative mode now

0:55.6

we're anticipating a grand jury indictment from the Manhattan DA's office.

1:03.6

We're pretty sure that it relates to the

1:08.0

hush money payments made to Stormy Daniels by Michael Cohen back in 2016, and we know that because she's

1:18.1

testified in front of the grand jury, and he's testified for the grand jury.

1:21.3

But I think that there is some question on what the legal theory is going to be.

1:25.8

In other words, how is, how would it brag design these charges in a way to both be something that he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury and will hold up against legal challenges and also reflect something that is a crime that people would be charged with as opposed to some kind of, you know,

1:56.7

Frankenstein type of, they've called this a zombie prosecution, like a Frankenstein

2:01.6

prosecution of something that you know no one's ever seen before is that fair?

2:06.3

Yeah, I think so I think you want of what you want as a prosecutor is always to charge a case that is in line with your

2:17.2

prosecutions in other cases and if you're deviating from that if you're

2:21.0

prosecuting something totally new or different.

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