Trump Bombed Iran. Are We at War?

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🗓️ 23 June 2025

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The Trump administration bombed three Iranian nuclear sites. While the Pentagon says these facilities are severely damaged, a diplomatic end to the conflict and a nuclear disarmament agreement feel less possible than ever. Guests: ⁠Gregory Gause⁠, Visiting Scholar at the ⁠Middle East Institute⁠ and ⁠Professor Emeritus of International Affairs⁠ for the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University ⁠David Faris⁠, ⁠political science professor⁠ at Roosevelt University, ⁠contributing writer⁠ for Slate. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.6	Hey everyone.
0:32.9	We recorded this show on the afternoon of Sunday, June 22nd.
0:37.9	It's possible things shifted overnight.
0:44.3	So, Greg, I'm going to ask you the most extreme version of a question I think a lot of Americans are thinking about right now.
0:52.9	After this weekend, are we witnessing the beginning of World War
0:57.2	3? Absolutely not.
1:01.7	This is comforting, right? Because I don't know about you, but when I heard that President
1:07.8	Trump had authorized our military to drop several 30,000-pound bunker-busting
1:13.6	bombs on Iranian nuclear facilities. My internal doomsday clock ticked forward a few seconds.
1:22.6	Why are you so confident of that?
1:24.6	Because the Iranians can't really launch World War III.
1:28.3	And as important it is in the Middle East, as we can see from the fact that the Russians,
1:33.3	the Chinese, they're keeping their distance from this.
1:36.3	No one is going to get into a full-fledged war with the United States over Iran.
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