Coming up on the Peston podcast, if Joe Biden is the next American president and it looks as though he will be, what does that mean for America and for us? Is there any chance of Donald Trump going quietly?

And why is the Tory party split down the middle on this lockdown that we are all now in?

Joining me to discuss all this is Anthony Scaramucci, former aide to the current US President Donald Trump.

Emily Thornberry, Labor's international trade spokesman, Grant Shaps, the Transport Secretary,

the Black Lives Matter, activist Dorey McKesson, and Ed Balls.

You know him from Strictly come dancing, but more importantly, as one of the most prominent Labour politicians of recent years and the former Education Secretary

Nicky Morgan

Ed I'm gonna kick off with you I mean you know America well

you've been involved in a few elections in your time

assess the significance of this election for this country, for Britain.

For Britain? Well, I think that the uncertainty and division which we've seen in America

is going to continue for the next four years. We don't know yet if it's going to be Biden,

but it looks likely, I'm still a bit reluctant to call it.

What you can absolutely guarantee, I think,

because Donald Trump is going to be fighting,

not just until the end,

but for months and maybe years afterwards.

For Britain, though, if it's Biden. If is Biden, I think that Biden is much more

predictable than Trump. He's an internationalist. He's somebody who will want to work with other

governments. He'll support NATO. He'll want to get the Iran deal back on track. He will want

to see progress on climate change.

And next year for the UK, we have the G7 presidency.

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