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Deadline: White House

“Trump bends the national security apparatus to his will”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Versant, News, Msnbc, Government, The White House, Ms Now, Daily News, Washington Dc

4.56.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

July 3, 2026; 4pm: Ayman Mohyeldin is in for Nicolle Wallace. Ayman and guests cover Acting DNI Bill Pulte enacting Trump’s agenda for the national security apparatus.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It is 4 o'clock in New York. I'm Eamon Mohideen in for Nicole Wallace. News breaking

0:09.0

earlier today, revealing that Donald Trump's quest to bend our national security apparatus to his

0:13.6

will has now been turbocharged by his acting director of national intelligence, Bill Palti.

0:19.0

MS. Now's Von Hilliard has some exclusive new reporting that, quote, dozens of intelligence

0:24.2

officials began receiving notice of their terminations on Thursday under Bill Pulte, an

0:28.3

intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity due to potential reprisals

0:32.7

told MS Now that the individuals being removed by the Trump administration are officials who they believe

0:39.4

are deep state. Intelligence leadership alleges that the fired workers have not provided complete

0:45.1

pictures of available intelligence, the officials said. The moves come after Pulte's elimination

0:50.3

last month of six political appointees who served under Tulsi Gabbard, that previous

0:55.3

director of national intelligence. Now, the premise is absurd, one of the former officials said.

1:01.0

Another of the former officials questioned how Pulte, who has no experience working in intelligence,

1:07.0

would be able to make such a determination so quickly. Quote, I have a real question of how he would know this.

1:14.0

This isn't a guy who is familiar with intelligence, said the former official,

1:18.4

who also spoke on condition of anonymity, citing concerns about retaliation.

1:22.8

How is he going to get to the bottom of this and rely on any information with a matter of fidelity.

1:29.0

It would be like me taking over a hospital and firing dozens of surgeons in a matter of days.

1:35.4

A recent Wall Street Journal interview with Donald Trump, however, making it clear that this is

1:40.0

less about Pulte managing to uncover some new information about these intelligence officers

1:45.3

and more about passing a loyalty test. The Wall Street Journal reported at the time this,

1:51.1

just last month, quote, President Trump said that he wants Bill Pulte, his incoming acting director

1:55.9

of national intelligence, to begin firing a large number of employees as part of a shakeup of the U.S. intelligence

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