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Trump and Xi's big summit: Substance or symbolism?

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

After pageantry and flattery in Beijing this week, Presidents Trump and Xi are hailing a new era of the America-China relationship. But stumbling blocks remain - from tech and trade deals to the war in Iran. China expert Rush Doshi served in President Biden's National Security Council and he joins the show to discuss all the details from this historic summit. Then, what went wrong in Israel? That's the question author and leading genocide scholar Omer Bartov seeks to answer in his new book. He joins Christiane to trace the origin story of Israel, to the war in Gaza, to its present-day popularity crisis. Plus, as tech giants join Trump in China, back home in America they are seeking the key to immortality. Tech journalist Kara Swisher explores this in her new CNN series "Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever." And from the archives, a look back at the long fight for freedom in Iran. Christiane's report from Tehran, where young Iranians risked brutal punishments to go to parties. And finally, when politics meets pop. We explain how this year's Eurovision Song Contest is causing controversy as Israel gears up to compete in Saturday's 70th Grand final. Air date: May 16, 2026 Guests: Rush Doshi Omer Bartov Kara Swisher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and a very warm welcome to the Amampur hour.

0:11.0

Here's where we're headed this week.

0:13.0

The world is a special world with the two of us, united and together.

0:18.0

Trump in China, high stakes on the president's history-making trip to Beijing.

0:23.8

How did it impact a relationship the fate of the world hangs on?

0:27.7

I asked Rush Doshi, who served as a top China advisor to President Biden.

0:32.9

Then, as American public opinion swings against Israel, renowned professor and genocide scholar

0:39.3

Omer Bartov tells Christian where Israel went wrong, also on the program.

0:44.3

This really is the craziest of stories about a Russian shadow fleet ship that sank off the coast here

0:50.3

in the strangest of circumstances.

0:52.3

An exclusive investigation into the mystery of a

0:55.7

sunken Russian ship and where it was carrying nuclear technology. Then, the world domination of

1:02.7

tech titans continues as they tagged along on Trump's trip to China. But is their goal

1:09.2

immortality? Gershian veteran tech journalist Karoswisher.

1:13.6

They have all the money in the world, but the one thing that happens is biology is undefeated.

1:18.6

And amid the war, the situation becomes ever more dire for Iranians who wanted a different future.

1:24.6

From Christian's archives, the young people who risked everything

1:28.4

for a taste of freedom. Welcome to the program, everyone. I'm Paul Newton sitting in for

1:36.7

Christian in New York, a new era of U.S.-China relations. That's what U.S. President Trump and

1:43.3

China's leader Xi Jinping hailed at a much-awaited

1:46.3

summit in Beijing, such a success that Trump invited Xi to a follow-up in Washington this September.

1:53.1

Now, the goal was to talk trade, Taiwan, and tech. The latter underscored by a group of high-powered

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