Hey, listeners, it's Allison. Can He Do That is taking a holiday break. But while we're gone,

we're bringing you some episodes from earlier in the year. Just before the presidential election,

we brought you a special three-part series about the legacy of the past four years of the Trump

administration. The series dove into our country's hyper-polarization and how some pieces of the

Trump agenda have exacerbated our divides. And that was all

before the election. If you listen to these episodes now with the election behind us, the series

reveals what drove some voter decisions at the polls, and it forecasts some of the debates happening

within our political parties today. Hear more of what this series reveals in hindsight with a fresh listen. Here's the second

episode of that series on Trump and Science. President Trump has disrupted so much in Washington.

He's bucked against the norms of the White House and the way Americans perceive how Washington

works.

Much of this transformation has unfolded in dramatic, headline-grabbing moments.

But some of this change has been gradual.

It's happened over time in small moments that together end up carrying large consequence.

The Trump administration has slowly unraveled parts of our government that rely on

expertise and data, on empirical findings and research.

And Trump's rhetoric often disparages public institutions, everything from the media to the

U.S. intelligence community to science-based government institutions.

The breaking news, President Trump taking on his CDC director, calling him confused and mistaken

on two issues central to stopping the spread of the virus, masks, and vaccines.

I think he made a mistake when he said that. It's just incorrect information. And I called him, and he didn't tell me

that, and I think you got the message, maybe confused. And while this gradual erosion of trust

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