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Trump and Musk take on the judges. Will they win?

Power Play

POLITICO

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4.2 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

United States President Donald Trump has been rebuked by the chief justice of the Supreme Court for his attacks on judges who have ruled against his flurry of executive orders. Elon Musk has joined the fray by calling this a "judicial coup." Is this the road to a full-blown constitutional stand-off? Host Anne McElvoy talks to Matthew Platkin, Attorney General of New Jersey, and prominent thorn in the Trump administration’s side. Platkin is spearheading a coalition of Democratic law-enforcement officials from more than 20 states, resulting in lawsuits attempting to thwart the president’s executive orders to revoke birthright citizenship, stop a sweeping freeze on federal funding and challenge an attempt to dismantle the Department of Education. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Big news out of the Supreme Court. The Chief Justice of the United States of America just issued a rare statement on President Trump's call to impeach the judge in his Alien Enemies Act case.

0:14.8

Donald Trump has been rebuked by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court for his attacks on judges who've ruled against

0:21.5

his flurry of executive orders. Elon Musk has now joined the fray, calling this a judicial

0:27.9

coup. Is it the road to a full-blown constitutional standoff?

0:36.5

Welcome to PowerPlay, Politico's weekly podcast, where I talk to some of the voices shaping transatlantic thinking in the new Trump era.

0:45.5

I'm Anne McElvoy. If you haven't done so already, please do follow the podcast.

0:50.5

My guest this week is New Jersey's Attorney General Matt Platkin.

0:54.9

At 38, he's a prominent thorn in the Trump administration's side,

0:59.8

spearheading a coalition of democratic law enforcement officials from more than 20 states.

1:05.5

The result is lawsuits attempting to thwart the president's executive orders

1:09.9

to revoke birthright citizenship,

1:12.5

stop a sweeping freeze on federal funding, and challenge an attempt to dismantle the Department of Education.

1:19.8

The stakes rose this week when President Trump threatened to impeach federal judges who rule against him,

1:26.2

provoking the Chief justice to defend the independence

1:29.3

of the judiciary. Who will prevail? Matt Platkin, welcome to PowerPlay. Thanks so much for having me.

1:37.9

Well, it looks like you've been very busy taking the new administration to court over the last

1:43.4

six to eight weeks or so, multiple

1:45.6

cases being heard in federal courts across 23 states, no less. Are you and your other

1:52.4

attorney general colleagues seeing yourselves as the last backstop between the people in a powerful

1:57.8

president? Well, I think we see ourselves as the people who took an oath to

2:02.0

protect the residents of our states. In my case, nine and a half million people live in New Jersey.

2:06.6

And every case that we file, just like every action I take as attorney general, is designed to

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