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Achtung, Achtung.

Welcome to We Have Ways of Make You Talk, Second World War podcast, World War II podcast with me mary and james holland here's the thing we're recording this a week before the uh u s election and something shocking

came out in an article in the atlantic from a new book um in which it's reported that trump

told his former chief of staff john kelly he said to, why can't you be like the German generals?

Kelly explained to Trump, the German generals, tried to kill, hit the three times and almost

pulled it off. This correction apparently did not move Trump to reconsider. He said,

no, no, no, no, they were totally loyal to him, supposedly, he responded.

This is, I mean, you know, here's a cocktail of shocking bullshit, isn't it, Jim?

Yeah, he is, yeah. The American president, and this is always the thing that we don't quite calculate in the way we think American politics, is the commander in chief, isn't it?

Yeah, he is.

In the way that our prime minister, our prime minister isn't, that prime minister is, you know, the monarch.

It is a senior political figure. Yeah, and has to get in his chief of staff and say,

all right, this is what I want you to do.

And, of course, the chief of staff can resign, can't he?

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