This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, July 25, 2004.

I'm Caleb Brown.

With a new candidate for president emerging from the Democratic side, where do Kamala Harris and Donald

Trump line up on energy issues?

I spoke with Cato's Travis Fisher about where the candidates differ and some troublesome

areas where the candidates appear to agree.

Travis, with the departure of Joe Biden from the presidential race,

the candidates at least on the subject of energy and some

environmental concerns, the talking points may be a little bit different, of course the the political prospects of these

candidates is not our immediate concern it is whether or not what they're doing is a

good policy and so we have Donald Trump on one side who has four years of experience in helping shape

energy policy.

And on the other side we have Kamala Harris who has a lot of stated preferences, but her role in

role in shaping policy is not quite as official as it would be if she had

been serving as president previously. You stated before we started recording that

there are areas of agreement in not in a good way between Trump and the likely

Democratic nominee Kamala Harris.

So what is that, what is this area of agreement?

Yeah, those areas are the things that I dislike the most, including high tariffs on things like electric vehicles, you know, from China, for example, solar panels.

So if you wanted a future of sort of high solar, charging your EV with the solar panel that's going to be costly under either

admin because that's the thing that they agree on very high tariffs on both.

Donald Trump and it's not really to his credit but he seems less discriminating

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