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🗓️ 24 June 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the beat. Our top story is this bombshell whistleblower complaint rocking the Trump DOJ and administration. |
0:07.6 | It alleges a top Trump official said the DOJ could plot to tell the courts, FU, and ignore judicial orders that the president didn't like, which is what happens in autocratic regimes. |
0:19.2 | This is a new, damning account of an assault on the rule |
0:22.3 | of law. It comes from a very solid source, a longtime DOJ attorney who was in the room, who worked |
0:28.5 | directly for these Trump appointees, who witnessed them firsthand knowledge, strong testimony. |
0:35.5 | And this individual recounts how his refusal to lie led him to be later ousted. |
0:40.2 | The source is a detailed meticulous complaint. This is not one quote or one interview. It is now a |
0:46.3 | formal process, not unlike other whistleblowers that we've covered throughout many decades in American |
0:51.1 | life. And whistleblowers, even in this current Trump era, even if he didn't |
0:55.8 | like it and wants it to be otherwise, are legally protected. Indeed, that's one of the reasons |
1:01.1 | this is news tonight, which we'll get into, because the written complaint has been provided to |
1:05.9 | Congress and the public. And it's leading to these kind of bombshell New York Times headlines. Justice |
1:12.0 | Department leader suggested violating court orders, whistleblower says. The confession here is from |
1:19.7 | the top of the Justice Department. The now-fired DOJ lawyer, Eris Riveney, writing about this |
1:26.8 | with the emails and documents, contemporaneous accounts |
1:29.7 | as the lawyer say, to back him up. So while some people might have thought this is where Trump |
1:33.8 | wanted to go or assumed his senior aides were trying to do this at DOJ, I can tell you, as a lawyer, |
1:40.4 | as a legal journalist, as someone following this all these times, all these months. |
1:50.5 | This is the most damning inside account that they did deliberately want to violate court orders according to the whistleblow. It comes down to a senior Justice Department official, |
1:55.5 | Emil Bove, also a former Trump criminal defense lawyer, who told subordinates that he would in this clash potentially |
2:02.3 | ignore these court orders to get whatever Trump wanted. Judges be damned. The Constitution be damned. |
2:10.5 | And that means in the end, democracy and the rule of law be damned because everything we do as a country |
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