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Hello, true spies listeners.

Welcome back to True Spies, Debrief.

Here on the debrief, we catch up with experts from the intelligence and espionage community

for a deeper look at the themes, events and insights that fascinate them,

taking you behind some of the world's most consequential, dangerous and outlandish missions.

Behind closed doors, politicians, business people and power brokers have for generations

been sharing and gathering secrets in private clubs.

These exclusive spaces, often hidden in plain sight, have quietly shaped the flow of information

and influence.

Historian Seth Tevo is the author of a new book about private clubs.

London Clubland, a companion for the curious.

In today's debrief, Seth joins True Spies producer Morgan Childs to explore these covert

places where power and privacy intersect.

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