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Alexis Papahelas is a leading investigative journalist and the executive editor of Greece's leading

newspaper.

He's also the author of A Dark Room, an extensively researched history of the role of the

United States in Greece's seven-year military junta, beginning in

1967.

True Spies producer Morgan Childs spoke with Alexis about this dark chapter in U.S. foreign policy,

about the 25 years he spent digging up previously untold secrets and about the evolving role of journalism

today.

Alexis, you are an intimidating person to interview for many reasons, not the least of which

being that you've

spoken with more people to make history than I can possibly count. Among them are Yasser Arafat,

Barack Obama, George Soros, Bashar al-Assad. But someone that you spoke with on multiple occasions is

Henry Kissinger, and that's where I'd like to start.

You have written that you tried to ask Kissinger

about Cyprus on multiple occasions,

but found that he was particularly cagey on that topic.

And in fact, much more than he was on Chile, for instance.

What was it about Cyprus and Greece that make Kissinger so skittish?

First of all, thanks for hosting me, Morgan. It's a real pleasure. Let me say,

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