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True Spies: Espionage | Investigation | Crime | Murder | Detective | Politics

True Spies Classic: You Me, Same Same | CIA

True Spies: Espionage | Investigation | Crime | Murder | Detective | Politics

SPYSCAPE

Society & Culture, Documentary, History, True Crime

4.73K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Ryan Hillsberg can be whoever you want him to be. As a CIA case officer, he recruited assets for the Agency by transforming himself into their ideal companion - a confidante par excellence. But maintaining a degree of professional detachment isn't always easy, as you'll discover in this classic episode of True Spies. From SPYSCAPE, the home of secrets. A Cup And Nuzzle production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, true spies listeners.

0:07.3

Welcome back.

0:08.7

You're joining us as we venture into the vaults to revisit some of your favorite episodes from our collection.

0:15.5

We hope you enjoy this classic true spies rendezvous.

0:19.6

We think it's well worth catching up with. This is True Spies,

0:25.0

The Classics, from Spyscape Studios. Incoming transmission. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to true spies.

0:39.3

Week by week, mission by mission, you'll hear the true stories behind the world's

0:46.3

greatest espionage operations.

0:49.3

You'll meet the people who navigate this secret world.

0:55.0

What do they know?

0:57.0

What are their skills?

0:59.0

And what would you do in their position?

1:03.0

This is true spies.

1:05.0

Even if they know this whole time,

1:08.0

Ryan was only after me to do this.

1:11.3

Even if they're thinking that, they've already rationalized that away because they have so much trust and love and respect and that foundational relationship is so strong.

1:23.9

They might think that, but no, I'm different.

1:27.6

This is true spies.

1:31.1

Episode 67, you, me, same same.

1:40.0

Think for a moment about someone you trust, someone you can always rely on. Maybe it's your

1:46.3

partner, your flatmate, maybe even your business associate. Think back to the early days of

1:53.4

that key relationship. How did it begin? Who initiated the exchange? What was the power dynamic

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