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My name is Ryan Harris, championship of both 50 and my dilemma is balancing ambition with appreciation.

It sounds like a deep thought by Jack Handy when I first hear it, but I think I actually get what you're saying.

I think if I'm hearing you right, it's about wanting to be ambitious enough to pursue whatever the next thing is,

but also being grateful and present in the moment and appreciating what you already have.

And interestingly enough, I have a colleague at ESPN and was successful guy.

We met actually when we both were working for small time blogs and got jobs at ESPN around the same time.

And my natural way of being is so grateful that at every turn, I would think, oh my God, I can't believe just two years ago,

I was doing X or Y and now I work for ESPN just five years ago. I was doing this and that.

And now I've got my own show or whatever it is.

And at every turn, I sort of was able to very naturally be grateful for the things that I had achieved,

be able to look back at the times when what I was doing now is what I could never have even dreamed of.

Well, also, of course, wanting to take the next step and looking ahead to what my career path might be going forward.

Whereas he was constantly the opposite, no matter what he had achieved and how far he had come,

it was about the next thing and worrying regularly about whether that next thing would come.

And I would constantly tell him that you will never appreciate the place that you're in

if you are always looking for what's next.

So it's great to be ambitious, but gratitude and I talk about this all the time on my podcast is so

important to being happy in the present moment.

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