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Welcome to Sizzy Larson Live.

Always so honored to get to spend this time with you.

I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk,

that deepen your understanding of God's word and that heightens your

awareness of his very real presence in your life. You know, joy is a gift from God. It's a fruit of the

spirit. And the joy of the Lord is your strength. My friend Holly Gurst says that one of the

reasons the enemy tries to steal your joy is so he can drain you of your strength. But have we traded

God-inspired joy for a surface, shallowy positivity? And is there a clear distinction between the two?

Absolutely, yes, there is. Jennifer Michelle Greenberg joins me today to talk about her book,

Defiant Joy, Find the Hope to light your way, even in the darkness.

What's really important about today's conversation is this, if you're going through a terrible time, we're not going to tell you, just don't worry and be happy. If you're walking through an uncertain time, we're not going to tell you to act like you have it all together. But what we are going to tell you is that joy is a fruit of the spirit and it's a gift from God.

And you can participate in a supernatural exchange with Almighty God

as you trust him with parts of your story that hurt or that don't make sense right now. Jennifer says

that this joy can only be found in God. It's a joy that doesn't depend upon us or our past or how wise or good or positive we try to be. It's an inexplicable joy that shines so brightly that its rays of hope pierced through our darkest nights. I really think, in fact, I believe with all my heart, you're going to be encouraged today. We'll get Jennifer on in just a moment. A quick announcement. If you've not

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Maybe share it with a friend because there's content every single day on the hour, biblical, solid content to encourage you in your faith. Now let me tell you about my guest. We'll get her on the show. Jennifer Michelle Greenberg is the author of Defiant Joy. That's the one we're talking about today. And Not Forsaken. She's risen to become one of the foremost voices against child abuse in the church.

She writes for Christianity today, the gospel

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