Four seasons, over 30 incredible guests, hundreds of podcast recommendations.

I'm your host Laura Whitmore and in this special series of Castaway, we'll bring you

the best bits from our back catalogue, sharing those golden castaway moments and throwing in those

bingeable podcast picks we're all hungry for along the way. Welcome to castaway, the best bits.

So in this week's episode, we're going to explore the dark and nefarious world of true crime,

one of the most popular genres of podcasting around.

I mean, why just seem to be that we all love the grisly detail of a true crime pod?

I mean, actually, maybe don't answer that.

I know perhaps this week's team of sinister sleuths can cast some light on the shady realm

of the podcast universe.

We're going to be kicking off with two people who loved the genre so much that they

only went and made their own award-winning true crime podcast so they did.

It's called Red Handed, so you know that any recommendations that they have are definitely

worth checking out.

Here are Hannah and Sir Ruthie discussing one of their

personal favourites. I want to talk about how you guys got together because you met at a party.

We did. I was living in a property guardianship in Poplar in East London.

You're so cool. Well, it's just because I had no money, Laura, honestly.

I was living with an American who decided he wanted to do a vegan Thanksgiving party

but didn't want to cook any of it himself.

I had to do it.

And we also had another guy who was sleeping on the sofa who was through Suru's childhood friend, and he was like,

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