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🗓️ 21 December 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey fam, it's Steve again, and we're back as promised with the second true crime |
| 0:05.3 | conversations episode. This time, it's Jillian's turn with Lainey Hobbs from True Crime Cases |
| 0:10.4 | with Lainey and Alvin Williams, one of the hosts of Affirmative Murder. They chat about their |
| 0:14.8 | origin stories with true crime, their recording processes, then the importance of getting all kinds |
| 0:19.6 | of different perspectives out in the world when telling true crime stories. We've got links to Lainey and Alvin in their shows |
| 0:25.1 | in the notes here, so please check them out. Huge thanks to Lainey for editing this episode, and also |
| 0:29.7 | once again to our pal, Josh Hallmark, from True Crime Bullshit for arranging these crossover |
| 0:34.5 | conversations. Enough of me. Here are Alvin, Lainey, and Jillian. |
| 0:38.7 | Happy holidays, fam, and thank you so much for listening. |
| 0:44.9 | Explicit content is found in this episode, so listener discretion is advised. |
| 1:02.4 | Thank you. is advised. Welcome to the True Crime Hangout. |
| 1:04.7 | I am so thrilled to be joined today by two wonderful creators. |
| 1:09.2 | I'm so glad for this mashup today that our lovely friend, |
| 1:12.8 | our co-friend, Josh Harmark put together for all of us to do. This was one of my favorite |
| 1:18.5 | things last year that a lot of my friends did as well, and I was very excited to get into it, |
| 1:23.7 | but I'm going to let everybody introduce themselves and their shows. And then we're |
| 1:27.5 | going to get into kind of our background into true crime and how we got started, where we are now, |
| 1:33.6 | and really just the fun parts and the not so fun parts behind content creation and how we consume |
| 1:39.8 | this content. So who wants to go first? Okay, yes. Hi. My name is Alvin. I host a podcast called Affirmative |
| 1:47.5 | murder. I started in like 2017. It's a true crime comedy based podcast. I am a Taurus and I love |
| 1:55.7 | Dr. Pepper Diet. Next. I am Jillian Pensavali. I do true crime obsessed with my co-host Patrick Hines. |
| 2:05.7 | It's a true crime documentary recap show. I am a Sagittarius. I am a big fan of full |
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