Today on the under center podcast, we delve into pace bowl.

That's right.

Watson versus Mahomes.

And I talked with someone who was there.

That's coming up next on the Under Center podcast.

What it means to me to be a Chicago bear, it's an easy question. It means everything to me.

That means rich tradition, black and blue division, defense, legends, linebackers. The history of it, I mean, I'm a big history guy, so understanding this was one of the first

franchises just kind of blows my mind, honestly, that was able to be a part of that.

The city, just the nostalgia of playing for a story franchise, the story franchise of the running back position,

with guys like Gail Sayers and Walter Payton and being able to follow in those footsteps.

So being a bear means everything.

I mean, what more can you say?

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I'm Lawrence Holmes, and I'm looking forward to having a great conversation with Ben Heisler.

Ben is someone who grew up in the Chicago land area, grew up a Cub fan, went on to do sports radio in Kansas City, where he works now as a fantasy sports analyst.

And I'm so happy to get him on the podcast because he was at Arrowhead for the craziness

that was Mahomes versus Watson.

So, Ben, my first question to you is what was it like to be there in the building for that?

I wish I could say I covered it. I was there for the first time in several years as just a fan of going to a crazy game, a playoff game at Arrowhead and watching the most bizarre football game I've ever experienced

unfold. It was weird, Lawrence. It was weird because as loud as Arrowhead is and as crazy as it

gets, watching just the balloon get completely deflated in the first, like, five, six minutes

of the game was nuts. It was a very quiet shock stadium. And the weird part was nobody really

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