Trouble in Ukraine and Kazakhstan
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 14 January 2022
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
There's a lot going on in Russia's near-abroad, the countries on the periphery of the Russian Federation. There’s a war brewing in Ukraine, with talks in Geneva between Russia and the West seeming to fail this week. There are also Russian troops in Kazakhstan, there at the invitation of the autocratic Kazakh government in response to protests over fuel prices.
To check in on the situation, Benjamin Wittes sat down on Lawfare Live with Alina Polyakova of the Center for European Policy Analysis; Alex Vindman, the Pritzker Military Fellow at Lawfare; Ambassador William Courtney, who served as ambassador to Kazakhstan; and Dmitri Alperovitch, the founder of the Silverado Policy Accelerator. They talked about what's going on in Kazakhstan, the failure of the diplomatic process in Geneva, and the war that seems to be coming in Ukraine.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | The big surprise from Moscow and all this is that Moscow propaganda for in recent years |
| 0:38.7 | has been alleging that Europe, the West are in decline, that America is polarized, Europe |
| 0:47.4 | is divided and therefore they're weak. |
| 0:50.4 | The Kremlin is pretending that the correlation of forces, as they call it, is moving in |
| 0:54.7 | this direction, the opposite is true. |
| 0:57.6 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast January 14th, 2022. |
| 1:05.3 | There's a lot going on in Russia's near abroad, the countries on the periphery of the Russian |
| 1:12.6 | Federation. |
| 1:13.6 | We got a war brewing in Ukraine with talks in Geneva between Russia and the West seeming |
| 1:20.6 | to fail this week. |
| 1:22.6 | We also had Russian troops in Kazakhstan there at the invitation of the autocratic Kaza |
| 1:30.6 | government in response to protests over fuel prices. |
| 1:35.6 | We thought it was time to check in and we got a heck of a panel before a live audience |
| 1:40.2 | to do so. |
| 1:42.1 | Alina Poliakova of the Center for European Policy Analysis, Alex Vindman, the Pritzker |
| 1:48.9 | Military Fellow at LawFair, Ambassador William Courtney, who served as ambassador to Kazakhstan |
| 1:57.3 | and Dimitri Alparovich, the founder of the Silverado Policy Accelerator. |
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