Welcome to the conversations that matter podcast. I'm your host John Harris. We're going to pick up where we left off yesterday.

Yesterday we talked about Bobby Scott, who I had never heard of until I saw a critical race theory panel at T4G last week and we went over it.

And Bobby Scott had said something interesting.

He said that the Ministry of Reconciliation given to Christians could be pursued by

Christians but that Reconciliation could also be pursued by those in the world

which I thought well that's interesting because the Ministry of Reconciliation in

2nd Corinthians 5 is a reconciliation of man and God

through the work of Jesus Christ.

It's the gospel.

But the world can somehow approach this.

I mean, the world can even get off the ground. I mean that it was just

weird but then he went further and he said well looking by the way this room looks he

looked at the room and looked at the fact that there wasn't a lot of ethnic diversity he said

we could be doing better at the Ministry of Reconciliation which is really curious because

the Gospel itself is is the his resurrection. And so the whole idea of using the 2 Corinthians 5

terminology, the Ministry of Reconciliation, and applying that to diversifying some kind of a organization is not certainly an

orthodox reading of that passage and it's actually it's law it's works it's not grace and the Ministry of

reconciliation is the message of grace and so I just pointed out that this was a

conflation and then someone sent me all this stuff about Bobby Scott that I was like

Surprised that he's went to master seminary he's been he's affiliated with T4G but also the

Sola network and the Front Porch,

the Just Gospel Conferences, the B. D. Anabuele puts on,

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