Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day

and the stuff that's even more important than politics too, from the Prime Minister's latest

immigration headache to our trading relationship with Europe and whether mansplaining is

as bad as women say it is. And joining me here to people who are far too respectful and articulate to ever anything explain except for explain. And they are Robert Crampton. Hello, Robert. Hi, Hugo. Good to have you here. Thank you. And Alice Thompson. Hello, Alice. Hi, Hugo. Anything you'd like to explain to me before we start? No, I'll do some later. Right, that'd be fine. I'm going to leave it to Robert. Yeah. Well, one should. Yeah. I'm trying to think, well, Robert and I can sort of manned to each other in a competitive way.

And sort of, later. Right, that'd be... I'm going to leave it to Robert. Yeah. Well, one should. Yeah.

I'm trying to think,

well, Robert and I can sort of mansplain to each other in a competitive way, in sort of rising voices.

Yes.

Well, that's what David Mitchell is talking about, isn't it? Not quite listening to... Not quite listening to each other's... Yeah, but you are the experts. I think we should talk about World War I maybe World War II Do you think Robert?

I'll go World War II, yeah.

Interesting thing about World War II.

No, let's move on, cover some news.

We're going to be talking about mansplaining later, I promise. But let's start, of course, with immigration, because the latest bump in the road to Kirstama's ambition to smash the gangs is what's going on in France. You've been hoping that a change in French law that allows police officers to stop boats once they've entered the water would help stem the flow of migrants across the channel.

But a vote of confidence in the French government could jeopardise that law change.

On Times Radio Breakfast, the government's paymaster general, Nick Thomas Simmons said he was confident the law would change.

The Home Office have already set out that they've had reassurance from the French Interior Ministry

that this change in maritime law will go ahead.

Whatever the stripe of the government, even if the government collapses.

We've had that reassurance it will go ahead.

And it is important because what that particular change is talking about

is the ability for French police to intercept the boats within 300 metres of the shore in shallow water.

That wasn't the case before.

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