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So don't feel like I'm working hard enough.

I've got that chip on my shoulder, feel like I'm doing enough but here we are yet

again deja vu all over again I last saw you about seven minutes ago welcome to

survive in the survivor the podcast that promises to bring you the very best

guess in all of true crime.

And of course tonight, sort of special STS coverage of the Michelle Traconis trial and

that is because today we're closing arguments and the jury went into

deliberations late this afternoon.

Obviously no verdict expected at this hour,

but we will be on it tomorrow all day and the COE is making me put this up there. You may or may not know we have a second channel now that covers just trials.

It's called Best Trials in true crime even though this little logo says best guess, but that's because this is best guess, but the best trials channel will be on verdict watch tomorrow and we will bring it to you live there when we get it and seeing Belgium in the

house a truly global audience so this trial just to give you some perspective today is

February 27th. This began on January 11th

so it's been going on for weeks. Six regular jurors, a little unusual. Usually it's a 12-panel jury and a bunch of the

alternates they started with five three of them got eliminated so there's six

regular jurors left and two alternates remain.

Jurors did hear seven weeks of evidence and a first time best guest here

whose friends with a friend of the COEs and mine.

Shout out to Jen Bernstein.

Jim Bergen handles complex criminal and civil litigation for the law firm, Schittman and Goodwin handles white-collar crime and government

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