Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to that Trippy show.

Earlier we had on the show Max Booth,

and the response of that show was pretty interesting.

In fact, two things combined to really focus me on my thinking. One was Dave Weiner, who's a good friend. I

respect him a lot, ran it at me for about 12 minutes on a voicemail podcast that he put out, saying,

hey, I had to start thinking differently about this. And at the same time, earlier that day,

I was on a phone call with Steve Schmidt

and Rick Wilson,

regalia, some folks from the Lincoln Project just talking about what was going on and it hit me that we're all talking past each other because of different views of what's going on out there.

I mean, I really want to thank Dave Weiner

for kind of making me think more about this.

And here's what I think is happening.

A lot of the media, the Democratic leadership,

Joe Biden, Joe Trippy, a lot of us

that have been involved in politics for some time keep falling in the trap of thinking

this is still two parties and thinking in sort of bipartisanship because there's two parties

you try to work together to get things done and that totally misses

where we really are at. However, a lot of the conversations that we're having about

okay we've got to win an election in 2022 is about exactly that these two

parties fighting it out that's not the fight though that matters and I think that's what is creating this sort of, you know, anger

against a mansion, for instance, who's still obviously thinking in the quaint, he'll find

bipartisanship across the aisle when it's clear that that's not likely to happen to

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