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That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

Trick Mirror: Jia Tolentino

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

ESPN Radio

Sports

3.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2019

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Sarah talks with Jia Tolentino, a culture critic at The New Yorker, about growing up in a megachurch, doing a reality show when she was 16, writing about issues without offering solutions, and her concerns about the impact of the internet and social media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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that's what she said that's what she said that's what she said

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what that's what she said

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welcome to that's what she said conversations with interesting people from

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the world of sports music comedy and more talk about their lives careers

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successes and failures i'm geatle and you know and my dilemma is that i think i

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might take too much pleasure and work trying to figure out if that's really good

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and like a dream thing that i should be really grateful for or something that's

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you know rotting my soul from the inside so most of the time i actually feel the

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same way but i've also been working really hard to make sure i give enough time

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to family and friends fun things outside of my job for me that balance is

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super necessary to be happy even though i do drive a lot of pleasure and a lot

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of my identity from my work and that word pleasure that you used to could have

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been random or it could mean something because pleasure or feeling good is

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different from happiness things that make us feel good in the moment might not

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actually make us happy or satisfied overall so if you think you're not only in

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love with your work and feel good doing it but also that you're happy overall

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then i'd say you're just one of the lucky ones if however you're getting

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pleasure from your work and it makes you feel good but overall you somehow

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don't feel quite fulfilled or happy maybe you need to look at the balance you've

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created back off a little work spend more time connecting in person with friends at

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family or meditating sleeping more listening to music letting your brain wander

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and seeing where it goes instead of filling all of your moments reading and writing

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