Look at the smirk on your face.

Go on down do it.

Look, the life of a startup founder can be very hairy.

Keep going.

Which, as we found out today, is about to be the complete opposite of Jack's head.

That is, hang on. The listeners at home, this is the episode we have to watch a YouTube channel

to see Jack's last appearance with hair. Yeah. Next Wednesday I'll be rocking your hair cut,

so be prepared. We recapped on the Go Catch versusatch versus Uber saga, I think would be the way to

describe it. It's been really interesting. I think there's been three or four days in court since we

last caught up. And we unpacked some of those issues. Yeah, it's going to be one. I'm sure we're

talking about more in the coming weeks. And then we celebrated the Canva secondary close with the

news that the 800 mil is flowing back into the ecosystem.

Then we touched on some SaaS growth rates and just discuss some of the top quartile percentage growth.

Which led into a chat about the tech winter, so looking at the latest data from cut through ventures,

showing that the Australian startups raised much less capital last quarter than the previous quarter.

Yeah, and there was some data from

Carter that supported that theme overall, but the Carter data goes a little bit deeper and it's not

the same for everyone and all stages of the life cycles. We then discussed and unpacked an article

by Casey Flint, who's a senior associate with Square Peg. And that article was, a VC explains the difference between what they say

and what they actually mean when talking about traction.

And we then went a little bit further just in terms of what we mean in general.

And often we're still trying to work that out.

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