Welcome to You Can't Make This Up, a companion podcast for Netflix original true crime stories.

I'm Rebecca Laveoy, your host. Each episode we take a close up look at a true crime documentary or series,

and I talk to the people who made them, diving deep into the backstories and

getting answers to questions raised by what we just watched.

This week, we break down the eight chapter docuise series

Trial 4. I'm joined by Remy Burkel, Trial 4's director. A note to

listeners, this episode contains spoilers, so make sure to watch the entire series and then listen on to this podcast.

Trial 4 is a timely sweeping story about criminal justice, police power, and systemic racism in America.

It documents the history of Sean Ellis

who faced three trials before he was found guilty

of the 1993 murder of Boston police officer John Mulligan,

a crime he says he never committed.

My name is Sean Ellis, and was wrongfully convicted of murder at 19.

Now I'm facing my fourth trial and the possibility of going back to prison for life.

The death of a police officer.

It's not handled like other homicides,

and this one wasn't.

The sense we got was Mulligan's past had caught up with him.

And when a black kid got arrested, it's like,

where did that come from?

Here we go again.

In my opinion, Sean Ellis executed John Mulligan.

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