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Tree Soil, Rodent Biologist, Soundscape Artist. Sept 8, 2023, Part 2

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🗓️ 8 September 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Treetops can hold complex ecosystems that include soil and other plants. Plus, a rodent biologist reflects on her career.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Later in the hour, a conversation about rodents and the

0:06.2

complicated paths of science careers and checking in on the sounds of the planet with Science Radio

0:12.2

Pioneer and nature recordist Jim Metzner. But first, we're talking soil. Now, I know you might

0:18.7

feel the earth move under your feet, but I bet you didn't know

0:22.3

that there's soil high above your head way up in the treetops where ferns and mosters and flowers

0:29.3

grow on top of the forest. Yes, they do. A new study in the journal Geoderma picks apart the factors

0:36.1

that drive how canopy soil is made. Joining me is the

0:40.8

lead author Jessica Murray, ecologist and PhD candidate at Utah State University in Logan, Utah. Welcome to

0:48.0

Science Friday. Thank you, Ira. I'm so happy to be here. That's nice to have you. You know, I'll bet you

0:53.3

that hardly anybody has ever heard of canopy soil.

0:56.6

Tell us what that is.

0:57.5

How does it get up on the top of the trees there?

1:00.9

Yeah, well, I hadn't heard of it either until I saw it pretty much.

1:04.5

Yeah, so canopy soil is called that because it is found in tree canopies on tree branches

1:10.7

and the cratches of trees. And it develops

1:14.2

over long periods of time. We don't know exactly how long, but probably many decades, if not

1:20.1

hundreds of years, through the decomposition of epiphytes, which is the name for plants that

1:26.3

grow on other plants. You might have mosses, you might have vascular epiphytes, which is the name for plants that grow on other plants. You might have mosses,

1:30.2

you might have vascular epiphytes, so shrubs, trees, et cetera. The leaves produced by what we call

1:35.9

the host tree, the roots of the epiphytes, any mosses, all of this organic material decomposing

1:41.9

over time on tree branches builds up this sometimes really thick layer of soil.

1:47.4

Wow. Wow. And your study looked at how the canopy soil is made, right? So tell us what factors did you zoom in on?

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