heads up before we begin. This episode contains discussions of death and police violence.

You'll also hear some 911 tape and a racial slur. It may be difficult for some listeners.

Can you recall where you were when you first heard about Trayvon Martin?

Yes, yes. I was a student at the University of Florida. I had been there for about a semester

and I think that the moment it really clicked for me was the 911 calls.

911 gene police, not a call? I'm maybe both, I'm not sure there's just

someone there. The neighbor's calling into 911.

Police, I just heard a shot right behind my health.

You know, screaming. I don't know why I think they're yelling help, but I don't know.

Yelling that there was like a kid in trouble. That voice you heard earlier,

that is Naila Summers' polite. She's still in Florida and she's a full-time activist now.

I am the co-director of Dream Defenders. That group is fighting for what they call

a world without prisons, policing, surveillance and punishment.

Trayvon Martin's death led Naila to that work, but it took her a little bit of time to get there.

Really, it took all of us some time to realize just how much Trayvon's death

would seemingly change everything. What in that first wave of coverage of his story and his death

stuck out to you the most?

Oh, so much of it. He's from South Florida. He went to crop high school, which is about 13 miles away

from where I went to high school. The fact that he was 17, that I think he was watching the

All-Star game and went to the store for some snacks. I mean, it was pretty cool.

You can recall the story. Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old black boy,

wore in a hoodie, headed to the store for some skittles and iced tea. He was in Sanford, Florida,

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