Travon Free on '38 at the Garden'

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.8 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Larry is joined by Academy and Emmy Award-winning writer and director Travon Free to discuss his new documentary '38 at the Garden' on HBO. They begin the conversation by sharing why he wanted to make the film and how it exposes the limitations society places on a particular narrative or stereotype, in this case Jeremy Lin's struggle to prove his worthiness as an NBA-level basketball player as a Taiwanese-American. Next, they talk about the importance of telling stories like Lin's to strengthen our society against bigotry, the importance of representation in all facets of life, and audience reception to the film.(23:25) After the break, Travon talks about life after winning an Oscar, which in turn leads to an in-depth discussion about intellectual property, how major studios will recycle IP to generate revenue, and how aspiring writers can use IP to break into the industry.(37:26) Finally, Travon details the advantages and complications of being part of a dual-director team with Martin Desmond Roe and his infatuation with Formula 1 racing.(57:03) Host: Larry Wilmore Guest: Travon Free Associate Producer: Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:34.9	Hey everybody, welcome back. You know, sometimes you have, you know, people in the news, you have
0:43.9	actors, you have comedians, you have sports, but sometimes you just got to have your boy on the show.
0:48.6	Somebody who kind of does it all, you know, and you know, we've had him before. He's turned into
0:57.6	man, such a brilliant filmmaker. He's always brilliant, right? But now he's like,
1:01.5	whoo, just taking it up a notch. It's so much fun to watch. But here's the thing. This is,
1:06.1	I call what he just did. This is candy, okay. And I mean that in a lot of different ways.
1:12.7	It's 38 at the garden you guys. And it is documentary of Jeremy Lin, his effect and, you know,
1:19.4	his standard in Eric Mix. He's basketball player and all this stuff. We'll talk about in a second.
1:23.1	But please welcome back, Emmy award winning and Oscar. Oh, it's a Travon free to back of the air.
1:28.9	Trava, what's up? And how you doing? I'm good, man. Thanks for having me back.
1:32.9	So it's always going to be here. I will always invite Oscar winners onto my show. Travon.
1:38.2	I don't know why you tripping and thinking.
1:39.8	I think I'm trying to break the record for most appearances. I love it. It's great. Yeah.
1:46.8	I mean, you've dropped by and then I said, you know, it's like having as a formal guest.
1:51.2	I'm sure you're too. Right. You know, and you know, I love talking to you. We have, of course,
1:56.1	conversations all the time. But you know, it's nice to have them publicly sometimes too.
2:01.6	And catching up. You're always, the thing I'm always impressed with the Travon you,
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