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The Breakdown

Travis Kling on Why a Decentralized Web 3 Is Worth Fighting For

The Breakdown

Blockworks

Investing, Business

4.8806 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This episode is sponsored by Nexo.io, NEAR and FTX US.    On today's episode, NLW is joined by Travis Kling, co-founder and chief investment officer at Ikigai Asset Management. They discuss Ikigai's just-announced $30 million Web 3 fund, and what got Travis and his team excited to start investing in the Web 3 space. They also discuss the current state of traditional and crypto markets and catalysts that might bring new energy and excitement to the space.   Find our guest on Twitter: @Travis_Kling - Nexo is a secure crypto exchange and crypto lending platform. Buy 40+ hot coins with your bank card in seconds and swap between exclusive pairs for cashback. Earn up to 17% interest on your idle crypto assets and borrow against them for instant liquidity. Simple and secure. Head over to nexo.io and get started now.  - NEAR is a blockchain for a world reimagined. Through simple, secure, and scalable technology, NEAR empowers millions to invent and explore new experiences. Business, creativity, and community are being reimagined for a more sustainable and inclusive future. Find out more at NEAR.org. - FTX US is the safe, regulated way to buy Bitcoin, ETH, SOL and other digital assets. Trade crypto with up to 85% lower fees than top competitors and trade ETH and SOL NFTs with no gas fees and subsidized gas on withdrawals. Sign up at FTX.US today. - Consensus 2022, the industry’s most influential event, is happening June 9–12 in Austin, Texas. If you’re looking to immerse yourself in the fast-moving world of crypto, Web 3 and NFTs, this is the festival experience for you. Use code BREAKDOWN to get 15% off your pass at www.coindesk.com/consensus2022.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW.

0:09.1

It's a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin, and the big picture power shifts remaking our world.

0:15.0

The breakdown is sponsored by nexo.io, near an FtX, and produced and distributed by CoinDesk.

0:22.8

What's going on, guys, is Friday, May 20th, and man, oh man, am I excited for today's

0:28.2

conversation with Travis Kling.

0:30.4

Before we get into that, however, if you are enjoying the breakdown, please go subscribe

0:34.2

to it, give it a rating, give it a review, or if you want to dig deeper into

0:37.8

the conversation and come talk about these think-boy ideas that we are about to get into,

0:42.7

join us on the Breakers Discord. You can find a link in the show notes or go to bit.ly slash

0:47.4

breakdown pod. Also, a disclosure as always, in addition to them being a sponsor of the show,

0:52.4

I also work with FTX.

0:54.9

So yes, Travis Kling is back on the breakdown, one of my favorite people and my favorite guests.

1:00.1

And this is a conversation that's been in the works for a little while,

1:03.0

because Travis and his Ikega asset management have just announced a $30 million Web3 venture fund.

1:09.3

This is a departure from their systematic Bitcoin-only hedge

1:12.8

fund that they've run for the last few years. And in Travis's thinking, there's a lot of

1:17.8

discovery and exploration that I think is very different than people who have been coming into

1:22.0

Web3, all guns blazing right away. What started as something that I planned to be a pretty standard interview

1:28.9

ended up getting really deep and kind of existential about the nature of these Web3

1:35.1

explorations, of play to earn, of these new concepts, and what they might mean to the world.

1:39.9

And what I think Travis offers that's so different is he's someone who is sitting there watching

1:45.7

Defy Summer in 2020 and NFTs, and he just couldn't quite get himself there.

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