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Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Trauma Masterclass: Understanding and Repairing Our Hidden Wounds

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 162 minutes

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Summary

Today we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes to explore one of the most salient topics in psychology today: trauma. We begin by tracing its developmental roots with Dr. Lindsay Gibson and Dr. Bessel van Der Kolk, before looking at how it can be passed down through family systems with Dr. Mariel Buqué, associate somatic therapist Elizabeth Ferreira, and author Stephanie Foo. Dr. Jacob Ham and Dr. Peter Levine then share new perspectives on healing, emphasizing the importance of getting out of the head and into the body. Finally, Dr. Gabor Maté discusses the cultural context of trauma, arguing that it's a symptom of a toxic culture. Key Topics:  02:15: Dr. Lindsay Gibson on The Last Impact of Inconsistent Parenting and Lack of Attunement 23:16: Dr. Bessel van Der Kolk on Internalizing Abuse 39:34: Dr. Mariel Buqué on Intergenerational Trauma 58:54: Elizabeth Ferreira on Intergenerational Trauma, Complex PTSD, and Somatic Techniques 1:23:23: Stephanie Foo on Healing from Complex PTSD through Relationships 1:47:15: Dr. Jacob Ham on the Limits of Conceptualizing when treating Complex Trauma 2:06:52: Dr. Peter Levine on Somatic Experiencing and Moving Trauma Through Your Body 2:20:55: Dr. Gabor Maté and our Toxic Culture 2:43:55: Recap Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors If you have ADHD, or you love someone who does, I’d recommend checking out the podcast ADHD aha! Level up your bedding with Quince. Go to Quince.com/BEINGWELL for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. Feel good...and mean it when you say it! Get Headspace FREE for 60 days. Go to Headspace.com/BEINGWELL60 Listen now to the Life Kit podcast from NPR. Go to Zocdoc.com/BEING to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/beingwell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hanson. If you're new to the show,

0:10.1

thanks for joining us today. And if you've listened before, welcome back. When we think about trauma,

0:16.0

our minds tend to go to the big, dramatic experiences. And of course, those big experiences can have a huge

0:22.8

impact on us. But the field of psychology has increasingly recognized the ways that smaller,

0:28.5

less obvious experiences can also have long-lasting consequences for people. A common example

0:34.5

of this are the relational wounds that we experience in childhood.

0:39.0

And the subtle nature of this type of trauma can make it really difficult for people to figure out

0:42.8

what's going on. They have a harsh, critical inner voice, maybe low self-worth, difficulties

0:48.9

feeling safe in their relationships, or maybe just a broader sense of alienation from themselves.

0:54.7

But there's not one thing they can point to as a kind of explanation for why they feel

1:00.2

the way they feel.

1:01.9

Whether you think of yourself as somebody who's experienced trauma or not, many people can relate

1:06.9

to that list of symptoms.

1:08.5

Of course, there is a lot of variation and how intense these

1:11.8

experiences are, and therefore how intense their consequences are. But wherever you're coming from,

1:18.2

I think you'll be able to take something away from the series of conversations we're sharing today.

1:23.9

These are short excerpts from previous conversations we've had on being well with an incredible group of guest experts,

1:30.6

and we've organized them to tell a kind of story.

1:33.0

Through these conversations, we'll explore some of the common sources of developmental trauma,

1:37.5

how trauma can be handed down in families or even as a part of broader social systems,

1:43.2

the consequences of that, and how we can start

1:45.7

finding our way back to who we really are. I hope you enjoy today's episode. We put a lot of work

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