Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hanson.

If you're new to the show, thanks for joining us today. And if you've listened before, welcome back.

If I had to put the focus of this show into one word, it's probably change. And to expand a bit from there, particularly changing our level

of emotional or psychological functioning, which then helps us change so much about our lives.

That order is important. Internal change tends to fuel external change. And while accumulating

more knowledge matters what often tips the scales for people is the emotional side of the equation.

We try to outthink our stress, perfectionism, our resentment, but what actually moves things

is our relationship to those feelings, whether we can welcome them, understand what they're

pointing to, and then act based on that understanding. And I'm joined by somebody today whose work

appealed to me in part because I thought it was so consistent with everything that I just said. My guest today is Joe Hudson, an executive coach and teacher who's worked with some of the world's top leaders at a variety of Fortune 50 companies. So, Joe, thanks for joining me today. How are you doing? Pleasure to be here. Yeah, great. It was great. It was really nice to hear that introduction. Yeah, I really appreciate that. Do you think that's kind of a fair characterization of the work you do with people?

Yeah. Yeah, great. It was great. It was really nice to hear that introduction. Yeah, I really appreciate that. Do you think that's kind of a fair characterization of the work you do with people?

Yeah, the way I would put it is a little bit different, but it generally jives.

What I would say is that I think that there's three things that need to be addressed if you're going to have transformation. And one is the brain, one is the

emotional, and one is the nervous system. And they're kind of different. They're kind of not, but it's

very useful to make them different. And in our society, what I would say is the most neglected one

is typically emotion. So you'll usually get the most bang out of your buck and the emotional

and how you relate to your emotions. And if you welcome your emotions, that is where you're going to probably

get the most lift off the quickest for most people. But there are some occasions where the emotion

system is doing well and you've got to address the brain or the nervous system. Totally. Yeah. And I think

that's really fair as well.

I'm wondering, when people come to work with you, maybe based on already what we're starting to talk about here a little bit today, what do they tend to say that the problem

is for them? And then after working with them, what do you observe the problem is for them?

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