We're on. We're on. Welcome. Welcome to our fair. Good morning. Good, oh hello, good morning. Good morning. Good morning for you. Because... Like your dress. Thank you. Well, that's very kind. I did manage to spill something on it within moments of putting it on this morning, but it seems to have dried out. So that's good. I like your top. And also you've got a double strike going in the shoe department there, which is making me go a little bit woozy. Well, it's not intentional. But we have managed to not dress exactly the same, which is good.

It's excellent. It's a really good start.

Our wardrobe laylines have parted company.

Thank you for that.

Somewhere over Glastonbury at all.

Yeah.

We ought to start because quite a few people in the email inbox have wanted to pay tribute to Jenny Murray, who very sadly died last week.

And obviously, you would know her so much better than most people, although, and I did read

this in the piece that you did for the Times, you made the very pertinent point that actually

if you're one half of a presenting duo, not like us where you're co-pressing, to use the technical term, then actually you are ships that pass in the night, aren't you? You're actually deliberately never in the same place at the same time. It is a bit of an odd one. You and I work together. We work together. We do, darling. And I love it. And I used to work with a man called Peter Allen. I worked with Peter.

I work with you.

Yes.

Jenny and I did present the same program, though very, very rarely at the same time.

Although I do have some, one in particular, one happy memory of working with her on a Christmas day, a pre-recorded Christmas Day edition of Women's Hour, which I think they used to record on, so I don't know, middle of December or something, and we'd assemble in one of those huge studios at the top of Broadcasting House, and there'd be a Salvation Army band or a gospel choir, or I don't know. God, those were the days. I tell you what. Right happen in future, darling. I don't think it will. And Jenny and I would interview a sort of disparate group of members of the BBC Radio four family. Oh gosh, yes, one of those. Do you remember? Was Gary Richardson involved? Not Gary Richardson, no, but we did have Brian from the Archers. Well, there you go. Yeah, I love it. He's a very funny man, actually, the man who plays Brian in the Archers. And Jenny was, she'd actually, the poor woman had had a fall, and she'd broken her humorous, which is, is that the, where is that, it's your... I don't know. Is that above your coxics?

She was, anyway, she was absolutely one of those professional, the show must go on people.

And she turned up, I think she was in great pain, but she was taking very strong painkillers.

And I will just say that she was the most mellow I ever saw her. And we did have a laugh that day. We really did. And she was a formidable woman, a tremendous broadcaster. I think deep down, I know her because there were times when she was, she was very kind to me and very thoughtful.

She sent me a message the morning after my marriage breakup had appeared on the front page of one of

the newspapers preposterously. I do need to say it was a very quiet weekend. And I didn't expect to

hear from Jenny. And I did. And I thought, well, I'm not going to forget that.

And I also treasure another memory of her at a party we had at my house, a woman's our party,

when my youngest daughter was, I think she was about six, and she knew that Jenny had had a

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