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So, Andrew, I have to tell you, I read this article over in Wired Magazine.

Okay. Or wired.com, I should say. And it was just fascinating to me, because how many

phone calls do you think that we've gotten here on the show over the years about somebody who was getting pig butchered.

Oh, I mean, this is, there was a peak where it was once a week. Now I think maybe we're down to three

times a month. And how many times when we talk to these people, and like one guy sits in the

sits in the top of my head right now where they

don't want to believe that this is happening to them of course and it's all just what i hear when

they call and tell us their stories is they are so pushed towards greed that they think there's this

huge payoff in the end they don't care what they're risking yeah i mean

there was that what was that one guy like 500 000 yeah 800 000 dollars 800 that was a stranger he

met on facebook okay another one was a half a million dollars i remember there was that one the one guy

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