Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology in the Raw. This episode is a recording of one of the sessions at the recent Exiles in Babylon Conference in Minneapolis, Minnesota. And this session was titled Transgender People and the Church. Okay, here's how it's going to go. In this session, I introduce a session and then I give a theological

overview of transgender identities. And then Dr. Mark Yarrhaus comes on. He gives a psychological

or an overview from a psychological perspective. And then we heard from three testimonies who are

diverse in the trans, the broader kind of trans community.

One is from Remy Rothgen, a Christian who experiences gender dysphoria and has chosen not to transition.

The other testimony, or another test, the second testimony is from Julia

Malat, who is a trans woman who has transitioned. And then the third testimony is from

Chloe Cole, somebody who used to identify as trans, went through the surgical process,

but then detransitioned and no longer identifies as trans.

And if you know anything about Chloe, she's very outspoken, an outspoken critic against minors transitioning in particular.

So I wanted to get an array of different testimonies so that people could see that there are diversity of

perspectives within the broader trans community or people who used to be part of that

community.

And then after the three testimonies, then we all sit on the couch and we engaged in a

really honest and forthright and I would say extremely good faith dialogue around

some differences of our viewpoints.

Now, you're going to hear the public, what I'm going to release publicly is the first

two talks from me and Dr. Mark Yajos.

And then if you want to hear the testimonies and the dialogue, then you need to go over to

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