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Transforming Boys Into Anti-Fragile Men – Epi-3841

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Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Today Hans Hageman joins us to discuss the growing crisis facing boys and young men, why “resilience” by itself is no longer enough, and what it really means to become anti-fragile. This is a conversation about what happens when young men grow up without purpose, structure, challenge, or direction, and why so many of the systems that claim to help them are actually failing them. Hans has spent his life working with boys and men in some of the hardest environments imaginable, from East Harlem to maximum security prisons, and he argues that what young men need is not protection Continue reading →

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0:00.0

And we're a better way to do this.

0:08.6

Let me show you a better way.

0:15.5

You don't have to be another facing.

0:19.4

And we are live. Welcome folks to episode 3,841 after our chaos day yesterday.

0:28.5

Yeah, once a month we have a chaos day.

0:30.3

That's where I have John and Nicole on and let Nicole run the whole thing, and we just riff on a bunch of stuff.

0:37.0

So even though we're on the second day of the week, it's kind of the first regularly scheduled programming in the week.

0:42.3

And it is an interview day because it is a Wednesday.

0:46.7

And that means we're about to have Hans Hegelman on with us in just a bit.

0:51.1

He's going to be talking about how we can transform boys into non-briddle

0:59.0

adults into men. I mean, if you guys have listened to me for any length of time, you've

1:03.9

probably heard me say more than once as a parent. It is not your job to raise children.

1:09.0

If you raise children, then you end up with an 18 or 20 year old

1:12.9

adult child. That's not what we're looking to do. We're trying to raise adults. And if we can raise

1:19.0

them in a resilient, non-briddle manner, so much the better. And there is a lot of things that are

1:25.4

challenging today for parents and for mentors and uncles and aunts

1:30.1

and godfathers and godmothers and grandfathers like me, et cetera, in doing that.

1:34.5

And specifically, uniquely with young boys and transforming them into men.

1:40.1

There has been what really looks and feels like a concerted effort to demasculalize society.

1:46.5

And I don't think society can work that way.

1:49.3

We can't merge everything together.

1:51.1

Men have unique, entrenched characteristics that we bring to society as women do.

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