Why would a professional Canadian hockey player who grew up as a Christian transition from

female to male and then de-transition back?

How did God's word transform her life and what did she learn through the process of gender

confusion, reassignment surgery, and detransitioning?

Our guest today is Kyla Gillespie and and she has written what I think is a fascinating

and interesting and enjoyable read about her life.

It's called Transformed.

I'm your host, Sean McDowell, and this is the Think Biblical Podcast brought you by

Talbot School Theology, Biola University. Kyla, I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Thanks so much for coming on. Hey, Sean. I'm also been looking forward to this for a long time, too. It's so great and such an honor to be on your podcast. Well, thanks so much for saying that. I want to jump right into your story and see how much we can cover in the time that we have. And so here's something you write. You said, as far back as I could look,

I was looking for a different gender, a different me. When do you first recall not feeling at home

in your body? And what did you do with some of those feelings? Yeah, it was very early on

in my life, actually, at the age of five and six, I had two specific moments where, of course,

being five years old, I don't have a category for like gender dysphoria or same-sex

attraction, nothing like that.

Here I was just, you know, I have a older brother and a cousin who's male and my father that I look up to.

And I just liked doing the things that the boys did, like micro machines, playing out in the yard, ball hockey, whatever, those kind of things.

And it was specifically when I begged my parents to take me out of figure skating and put me into ice hockey. A few months into it, my parents came up to me and they asked me, they said, you know, coaches and parents have come up and they were wondering if we could change you in a different dressing room.

And again, five years old, I'm not sure what I reacted with, but I just remember this feeling

of being like, oh my goodness, I'm not like these boys because there was no gender-specific

hockey teams in that age, like that age group on Vancouver Island in Canada in the 1980s, right?

So I just, yeah, I just felt different.

I thought I was one of them.

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