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soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend. Coming up, Tray Val Anderson tells us about their new book. We see each other a black trans journey through TV and film. It's important for trans folks to know that we belong to a long line of trans, brilliance, and excellence.

But first, it's our chance to sit back and unwind from the week that was with two excellent

humans. With us this week, we have Tracy Hunt, a correspondent and producer at WNYC Studios.

Tracy, welcome. Thank you so much for having me.

Also here is journalism lecture at Northwestern University, my friend Ari on Nettles.

Ari, hello.

Hi.

Okay, so I think we should start by just briefly discussing three very bougie institutions that all kind of converged this week between the coronation of King Charles

and the Kentucky Derby and the Westminster Dog Show. I am curious for each of you, which one

would you rather attend? Tracy, what do you think? Like, not even, the dog show, like, not even,

no question. No question, yeah. I felt the same way yeah so why

tell us why explain your reasoning well well I just I just love dogs and um you know I'm not even like

you know I guess I can go on a whole tangent about you know colonialism institutional colonialism, institutional racism.

You know, I could do all of that.

But really, it's just I love dogs.

I mean, all that stuff is definitely true.

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